A day just after Jay-Z declared that his Roc Nation business was partnering with the NFL, the rap icon defined that he nonetheless supports protesting, kneeling and NFL player Colin Kaepernick, but he’s also intrigued in operating with the league to make substantial variations.

The Grammy winner and entrepreneur fielded questions Wednesday at his firm’s New York City headquarters together with NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell. When specifically questioned if he would kneel or stand, Jay-Z explained: “I consider we’ve moved previous kneeling and I feel it’s time to go into actionable products.”

He then included: “No, I will not want people to quit protesting at all. Kneeling — I know we are trapped on it due to the fact it really is a real issue — but kneeling is a kind of protest. I aid protest across the board. We require to deliver gentle to the concern. I believe anyone is aware of what the difficulty is — we are done with that,” he added. “We all know the problem now. Ok, subsequent. What are we moving (on to) following? …And I’m not minimizing that part of it for the reason that that has to occur, which is a needed aspect of the procedure. But now that we all know what is heading on, what are we likely to do? How are we heading to stop it? Simply because the kneeling was not about a task, it was about injustice.”

Jay-Z has been amid the biggest supporters of Kaepernick, who sparked a fissure in the NFL when he resolved to kneel when the countrywide anthem was played in advance of video games to protest the killings of blacks by law enforcement officers. Some named him unpatriotic, and he has not played for the NFL given that he opted out of his deal with the San Francisco 49ers in 2017. Earlier this 12 months, the NFL settled a lawsuit brought by Kaepernick and Eric Reid that alleged that owners colluded to maintain them from enjoying in the league.

When requested why he failed to require Kaepernick in the new Roc Country-NFL offer, Jay-Z mentioned: “You’d have to check with him. I’m not his manager. I are not able to just bring him into a thing. Which is for him to say.”

Jay-Z also said he and Kaepernick experienced a conversation about the new deal but available no details about what was talked about.

The NFL and Jay-Z’s leisure and athletics illustration corporation announced Tuesday they have been teaming up for gatherings and social activism, a deal Jay-Z reported had been in the is effective about the final 7 months.

“Very first thing I reported to Roger was, ‘If this is about me accomplishing at the Tremendous Bowl, then we can just end this discussion now,” Jay-Z said.

The league options to use Roc Country — property to Rihanna, DJ Khaled and other stars — to seek advice from on and co-deliver its amusement displays, like the Tremendous Bowl halftime show. The NFL will also function with Jay-Z’s business to assistance its Encourage Change initiative, designed by the league after an arrangement with a coalition of players who demonstrated during the national anthem to protest social and racial injustice in this region. All those demonstrations ended up sparked by Kaepernick kneeling through the countrywide anthem in 2016.

“Everyone’s stating, ‘How are you going forward if Kaep won’t have a career?’ This was not about him owning a job. That became element of it,” Jay-Z explained. “We know what it is — now how do we handle that injustice? What is the way forward?”

Jay-Z extra that “the NFL has a big system and we can use that substantial platform.”

“I consider authentic modify is had by way of conversation, authentic conversation and true function … and what superior way to do it than wherever the discussion 1st took spot.”

Jay-Z has turned down invitations to complete at the Super Bowl, even rapping about it in a tune. Rihanna has also turned down the gig.

Jay-Z stated he is not carrying out at the 2020 halftime display, which his corporation will co-produce, and mentioned he turned down the offer you in the earlier since he “did not like the procedure.”

“You take 4 artists and everyone thinks they’re actively playing the Tremendous Bowl, and it really is nearly like this interview system,” he claimed. “I think the course of action could have been more definite.”

Maroon 5 headlined this year’s halftime demonstrate and when it was introduced that Travis Scott was to join as a specific visitor, stories surfaced on-line that Jay-Z failed to want the rapper to perform. Jay-Z acknowledged that was correct, but clarified it didn’t have anything at all to do with Kaepernick.

“My challenge is (Travis) had the most significant year to me very last yr,” Jay-Z described, “and he’s participating in on a stage that experienced an M on it. I did not see any reason for him to perform 2nd fiddle to everyone that calendar year and that was my argument.”

Goodell also answered many questions Wednesday. When a reporter asked a question, hunting at both Goddell and Jay-Z, the rapper claimed: “Are you asking me?”

“I am not the commissioner nonetheless,” Jay-Z stated as the space burst into laughter.